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+18Azlanek Zekic Thunion of Laria Slopsen Psychozoa DiabloDude Sir Celdiur Moriendor Ser Varys Sir Aranor Kamos Tubby McChubbles Pravenstern Iskar Saeros Datedsandwich Sir Haegon Marcus the Shadow Fighter Isabel Tenorio Mordred 22 posters |
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Isabel Tenorio Knight
Posts : 1610 Join date : 2012-06-20
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:41 am | |
| ... The possibility of rebellion is not the determining factor of absolutism. If that were the case, no monarch could be termed absolute. The determining factor of absolutism is the lack of a legal restraint on the King's power. There is no legal restraint on the King's power. He can do anything he pleases legally. The New Monarchies are termed absolute, despite rebellions and the existence of forces that could have rebelled if the King failed to maintain a proper stance. Pendor is a New Monarchy. (Quite literally too! ) | |
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Marcus the Shadow Fighter Grandmaster
Posts : 1148 Join date : 2011-08-20 Location : A windy cavern somewhere near Helsinki
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:45 am | |
| And we can be as nitpicky as we want, but that wouldn't be any fun would it? | |
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Iskar Peasant turned Lord
Posts : 4142 Join date : 2011-08-19 Age : 35 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:50 am | |
| - Isabel Tenorio wrote:
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The possibility of rebellion is not the determining factor of absolutism. If that were the case, no monarch could be termed absolute. The determining factor of absolutism is the lack of a legal restraint on the King's power. There is no legal restraint on the King's power. He can do anything he pleases legally.
The New Monarchies are termed absolute, despite rebellions and the existence of forces that could have rebelled if the King failed to maintain a proper stance. Pendor is a New Monarchy. (Quite literally too! ) The king is still in a feudal relation with his vassals which by "service for protection" implies that he cannot completely do as he pleases. Failing to protect (without precedent offenses of the vassals) would make him loose the legitimacy to rule them. | |
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Sir Aranor Grandmaster
Posts : 1918 Join date : 2011-08-20 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:59 am | |
| How did we get started on this discussion?
All i remember is tubby saying i was as guilty as a gooses grandmother (or something)
(In stronghold 2 peasant voice) im confused! | |
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Tubby McChubbles Grandmaster
Posts : 892 Join date : 2011-11-16
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:10 am | |
| I think it was to do with my comment on codifying treason, which as usual has bee utterly blown out of proportion.
The problem is, debate is good if people learn things, but most of our arguments seem to be people with conflicting opinions of history repeating theirs until we all give up. | |
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Mordred Dragon of the North
Posts : 2518 Join date : 2011-08-19 Age : 38 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:17 am | |
| I'll say what I said in a PM; I will not formalise what the definition of Treason is because there is no formal definition of it as yet. It is very possible that there will be a future Throne Room event to create a formal (10 commandments style) code of laws, but that does not as yet exist. | |
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Slopsen Knight
Posts : 918 Join date : 2011-10-16
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:56 am | |
| I believe that the king ... uhm.
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Fuck it.
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PENIS! | |
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Iskar Peasant turned Lord
Posts : 4142 Join date : 2011-08-19 Age : 35 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:54 pm | |
| I think the discussion about the king's position is easily solved by just waiting for Mordred's IC reaction. Just get the reply up so we can go on. | |
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Pravenstern Knight
Posts : 1632 Join date : 2011-08-20 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:52 am | |
| Well, it's done. I'll post it when the checking is done. Shouldn't take that long...
And don't you dare to cut the prosecution at that!!! | |
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Iskar Peasant turned Lord
Posts : 4142 Join date : 2011-08-19 Age : 35 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:36 am | |
| Checking? Anyway, let's see what evil trickeries you have produced. | |
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Pravenstern Knight
Posts : 1632 Join date : 2011-08-20 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:41 am | |
| THIS IS MY SORCEROUS TRICKERY!!!! BEWARE MY WRATH!!! Wait, what...
Seriously, your turn Iskar.
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Sir Haegon Knight
Posts : 1471 Join date : 2012-02-20 Location : Sarleon
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:41 am | |
| dude, you posted an entire book! | |
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Pravenstern Knight
Posts : 1632 Join date : 2011-08-20 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:42 am | |
| And that's a bad thing because? | |
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Sir Haegon Knight
Posts : 1471 Join date : 2012-02-20 Location : Sarleon
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:43 am | |
| - Pravenstern wrote:
- And that's a bad thing because?
I already have five books to read this week! This will keep me up all night. | |
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Pravenstern Knight
Posts : 1632 Join date : 2011-08-20 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:46 am | |
| Eh, make the reading fun! Every time one opens a book, (s)he should enjoy it. It is not reading if it makes you suffer. | |
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Marcus the Shadow Fighter Grandmaster
Posts : 1148 Join date : 2011-08-20 Location : A windy cavern somewhere near Helsinki
| Subject: Re: Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:50 am | |
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