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PostSubject: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 5:46 am

Please, players, I would like your feedback on this. We all have different roleplaying backgrounds and your opinion on this is important to me.

I like the system we have developed for arena fights, but it’s still too slow and too complex. I tried to come up with a qualitative fighting system, one that relied the least possible in numbers, and more on RP. I intend to use this system in other settings too. This is the result:

I got this idea while playing CK II and Fallen Enchantress. Basically, the concept here is that characters do not level up. Instead, they receive traits, penalties and skills according to what happens to them. These traits change their character and influence their way of roleplaying. So it is built with two goals in mind: a) to allow and/or provide opportunities for RP; and b) avoid mathematicalization of the game.

This is how it would work:
1) All characters are created equally. Then traits are added, making them slightly different from each other.
2) Along the RP, they receive other traits. Some good, some bad.
3) They cannot die. But they must cope with those traits and RP their characters accordingly.

*) Not all traits must have evident effects. Some may work as guidelines for our RP – both the PC and the other players. I, for example, would like to know when my character is talking to someone who has the manners of a commoner (Commoner) or of a lord (Noble), or when he is maimed, intimidating, or slave-marked. It would certainly affect my RP, and enrich the IC scenes in general

Initial suggestion of traits, just to get the idea:


- General traits

Foreigner : his manners and accent give away his foreign ascent.

Slave marked : he was a slave once, and the typical owner brand in his face or back is evidence of that.

Quick hands : the character's hands and fingers are very quick and nimble, a trait that can be used for good or evil.

Keen senses : the character is able to see, hear and smell better than most Pendorians. He also receives lower penalties in situations that deprive him of one of his senses.

Finesse : his high agility allows him to use small weapons better.

Strong : he is strong, and get all benefits that come from that.

Basher : after a long time of practice, he becomes skilled in bashing with his shield.

Charger : the character is skilled in riding heavy horses, and is quite efficient in leading or conducting charges.

Horse archer : he is able to use a bow or crossbow on horseback as if he were on foot.

Horseman : he can ride most horses.

Diplomat : he knows how to handle politics.

Survivalist : knows how to survive in the wilderness.

Master Swordsman (or Spearman/axeman/maceman/etc.) : is much more skilled than the average Pendorian in swordfighting. The character can use complex sword techniques.

Legendary Swordsman (or etc.) : is much more skilled than the average order knight in swordfighting. The character has created a personal fighting style, and is deadly in the battlefield, doing feats deemed impossible by most.

Martial artist : despite the name, this trait means that the character is skilled in unarmed combat.

Sharpshooter : this character rarely misses a bolt or an arrow.

Skilled weaponsmith (or craftsman/armorer/jewelcrafter/librarian/healer) : has expertise in an specific field.

Tactician : character has insights (meaning GM tips) about tactical matters during a battle.

Command I-X: character receives command points according to the command rules.

Stealth : character is stealthier than the average.

Wealthy : the character has a huge amount of gold stored somewhere.

Tracking : tracker.

Trapping : trapper.

Siege engineering : siege engineer. Knows fortifications and their weaknesses, as well as how to build them.

Hardy : the characters is more resistant to pain and injury than most. Injuries that would maim a regular knight become simple wounds on him.

Unflappable : the character is able to keep a steady mind under stress, and thus avoids psychological scars and traumas that would crush the lesser soldier (i.e. amnesia; afraid of death, etc. traits that a character may get after being knocked down).


- Battle wounds (unless otherwise specified, they last for only one season):

Amnesia : player has memory lapses.

Twisted ankle : becomes slower and less agile.

Broken arm : attacks and actions that use one arm fail more often.

Broken leg : player cannot run (horseback riding is ok, though).

Scarred 1 to 10: each level means a new major scar in one’s body. They are permanent. Characters with scars receive relation bonus with military NPCs (symbolizing the prestige of surviving a death wound) and proportional negative relations in diplomatic affairs, and also towards most nobles.

Maimed (limb): during one of his battles the character has lost a limb. Permanent and cannot be cured.

Blind : one of the player’s eyes was damaged during a fight. Permanent.

Lost an ear : lost an ear. Keen senses become regular senses. Permanent.

Demonic curse : he was hit by a demonic weapon and survived. The strike has left a scar that has a faint red glow. Its effects are unknown, but religious NPCs tend to consider the character’s survival a miracle.

Afraid of dying : he has survived a brutal attack and is now afraid of dying. Penalties during life-or-death situations for one season. Can be cured before that.

Ill : battlefields are a great way of transmitting diseases. After falling on a poodle of blood and dirt, the character has contracted a debilitating disease. Can be cured (this one also by lesser skilled healers).

*. Most of these wounds can be cured by master healers (or any medic or shaman).


Examples:

For instance, when Theo was hit in the back of the head by a shield during the Veccavi invasion, he could have earned the Scarred I (for falling in battle) or Amnesia (for being hit in the head). When he was hit that that crossbow bolt during the siege of Cez, he could have gotten the Blind or Pierced lung traits instead of dying. If he had being knocked down by cavalry charge, it would be something like Broken leg or Twisted ankle. A sword strike could have maimed him, and all of the above could have simply given him another Scarred trait.

Obviously, positive traits would also be implemented. Traits can be gained through IC and metagame actions. Have you consistently RPed creative tactics during battles? Tactician trait. Have you RPed a pious and unyielding knight? Pious or Iron will trait. Has someone paid for your stay at Elacrai/Naval Academy/Poinsbruk library?


Some retroactive examples:

-Iskar is by far the most diplomatic character, sending detailed IC letter to several lords and cautiously weaving his hidden goals in them. The Diplomat skill would be fitting.
-Kamos’ trait is already well known. He punched people, was punished by it, but could have gained the Martial artists trait.
-As far as I know Pravenstern has designed quite a lot of things. He is seen by others as an Skilled smith, and gets special features from it.


--- But not only long-term roleplaying could be used by players to gain positive skills. If implemented, one could associate this system with the quest system [more on that later this month]. A player can choose to gamble, and risk a dangerous, but quick and rewarding quest.



This is how gambling works:

A player picks one of the several quests in Pendor. He accepts the quest and leaves for it.



Yet another example. Griffons assemble and it is decided that on player must lead small party in a skirmish against a Vanskerry patrol. The player, says the Griffon grandmaster, will be rewarded if he succeeds.
So, you see, there is a risk involved: if the Griffon party loses, the player will get a negative trait, possibly lose an eye or an ear. But if he wins, the Griffon chapterhouse will fund his stay at the Mettenheim Academy of Swordsmanship, thus giving the character a Swordmaster trait.

I think we often forget that this is an RPG Very Happy There is a risk, there is a reward, there is a quest, and there is the sense of accomplishment of facing danger and winning. It think this is great.


Some positions give free traits: the Shadow Legion centurious will get a free “Empire Ironbred” trait, a Clarion knight will get the “Larian hunter” trait for free.


Background

This is how your character was raised and what he was doing before starting his training at his respective order. One may also create other “professions” if needed. This background helps by giving us a loose personality to RP and develop upon. It also gives the character a specific set of skills that can be used when needed. They are as follows:


Adventurer: you are a free spirit and have decided to take control of your own destiny. You quested for a long time, and have learned a lot from the world. In your journeys you have found quite a number of quality items and equipment, but sold most of them, keeping only a few. Your weapon specialization varies.

Warlord: you were a man-at-arms, either independent or a king’s army, and eventually became the leader of a small warband, until the time you joined your order. You know how to handle all weapons, and, being part of many battles you also don’t lack the practical experience of battlefield.

Scholar: you know a lot about a lot of things. You speak most of the known languages, and you have memorized castle designs, Pendorian geography, and history books, and you know well the lore of the kingdom. Your martial skills, however, are severely lacking, and you must do a lot of effort in order to become competent on the field.

Ranger: you have lived in the wilderness for a long time. If you did not undergo Silvermist education, you may even seem a bit uncivilized for the townsfolk, eating with your hands and such. You are an excellent hunter and trapper, and in the wilderness you often see what other people cannot. You are highly skilled in the use of bows or crossbows, but your real advantage over the others lies in your knowledge of the wilderness, its beasts and its dangers.

Scout: similar to the ranger, but on horseback and on open terrain. You are among the fastest riders in Pendor, and in this category fit both Windriders and Clarion Rangers.

Priest: you are the priest of a goddess. You may perform blessings on people (thus improving your relation with them in that context), make curses (works well on the illiterate), and act as a minor representative of the respective church. Commoners often follow your suggestions, instead of that of the local authorities.

Noble: you know how to deal with nobles. You have memorized every banner of every major Pendorian lord - and of some respectable foreign lords too. You know how to ride, how to fight with gentlemen’s weapons, and you have your own family signet ring and banner – even if it flies only over a small estate in Pendor’s countryside. Nobles are usually more pleased with your presence, but commoners fell a bit uneasy. Swords, crossbows and horseback fighting are natural to use.

Commoner: you speak the tongue of the people and will be able to mingle easier among them, possibly making a good agent, preacher or merchant. Your manners, however, greatly displease the nobles. You also know the basics of farming, woodworking, fishing and hunting, and has learned how to use bows and polearms.

Alchemist: a general physician. You know how to heal people, and may have moonlighted as warrior, merchant, or even healer-for-hire.

Shaman: same as alchemist, but only in the North. You know the traditions of Ravenstern and the Mystmountains, and you can use local flora with much more efficiency. You don’t know anything about the medicines and ailments from other regions.

Medic: same as alchemist, but only in the East. You know the traditions of the East, and can use Empire flora with much more efficiency. You don’t know anything about ailments and plants from other regions.

Outlaw: whether your order knows it or not, you were once an outlaw. You know how bandits think, where they would like hide, and how they fight. You also know where rich people like to store their valuables. As the ranger in his forest, you can find your way and survive well in any urban environment. Knows where to hide, where to find food, and where to ambush his enemies. Knows “people” in nearly every city. You may or may not have redeemed yourself and work against your former brothers in crime.

Merchant: before becoming a knight, you were once a merchant, and thus part of the blooming and wealthy Pendorian merchant class. You are the best at creating caravan routes or offering trade agreements. You may or may not have become a fighter to defend your goods, or a politician to gamble at higher stakes. You may also have bought your way into the nobility, becoming a lesser noble yourself.

Seaman: you were a man of the sea. You know how to sail, and can identify ship designs and flaw at a distance.

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The backgrounds above with explanation of their mechanics:


Adventurer: basically the most generic class. You can specialize in three weapons, instead of only one, as happens with the other backgrounds. You also get one free quality item (a super keen sword, a rare piece of armor, an expensive cloak, a good horse, etc.) or two custom traits of any kind.

Warlord: “good” proficiency in all weapons, plus one of the following: a) a martial or physical trait; b) a command bonus; or c) an “exceptional proficiency in one weapon”.

Scholar: Has “good” proficiency only the order’s weapons of choice (is allowed to learn others during the RP, though). Can succeed in most engineering, medical or strategic problems, and grants the order a metagame bonus in these areas. Can choose two mental traits. I doubt anyone will choose this one, but here is is.

Ranger: “Exceptional” in bow or crossbow. Knowledge of trapmaking, hunting, foraging, and hiding. Can predict the weather fairly well, and can track parties and detail their nubers and composition. One free physical or mental trait.

Scout: “Exceptional” in bow, crossbow, or spear. Extremely fast rider. Can track, forage. One free physical or mental trait.

Noble: “good” proficiency with one-handed swords and crossbows; horseback fighting, noble benefits. One free physical or mental trait.

Commoner: “good proficiency” with bows and simple polearms. Commoner skills. One free physical or mental trait.

Priest: “good” proficiency in any weapon of choice. One physical or two mental traits.

Alchemist: can treat a wide variety of wounds and illnesses. Cannot treat serious wounds. Two free physical or mental traits.

Shaman: Extremely skilled in Northern illnesses. Know the effects of every single herb of old Ravenstern. Some say they can even cure serious wounds. One free physical or mental trait.

Medic: Extremely skilled in Eastern illnesses. Know the effects of every single herb of old Empire. Some say they can even cure serious wounds. One free physical or mental trait.

Outlaw: is the ranger of the city. Has combat bonuses in sieges or in any urban battles. One physical or one mental trait. If not redeemed, may contact Red Brothers and get espionage bonuses as well.

Merchant: two physical or two mental traits. Instead, the player can choose the trait “background”, symbolizing that the character has spent all his resources to become part of the nobility.

Seaman: two free physical of mental traits. Knows everything about ships, boats, Vanskerries and pirates.


Examples of background adaptations. At the right side of the background is what the character has become during the RP, not the name of his class (let’s keep this simple and avoid that kind of thing. It's too limiting.).


Warlord ---> master horseman
---> legendary footsoldier
---> commander

Noble ---> Advisor/steward
---> Diplomat
---> High officer at an order

Priest ---> Frontline preacher (battle cleric)
---> Inquisitor/ high priest

Outlaw ---> Counteragent (works against the outlaws)
---> Agent (secretly works for the outlaws)
---> Independent outlaw
---> Survivalist

Ranger ---> Trapmaster
---> Assassin
---> Pendorian ambassador at Elacrai

Alchemist ---> Healer
---> Multitasking knight

Further examples of regular order members (not players)

Radiant Cross would fighters with alchemist background.
Ravenspear would be fighters with scholar background.
Dawn knights would be fighters with priest background, or priests with fighter background.
Clarion rangers would be fighters with noble background.
Silvermists are rangers. Alternatively, they could be fighters with commoners, outlaws or nobles.


So what?

How would these be used? Simple. Fights would be decided by the GM after consideration of the players’ traits. E.g. an archer with Blind and Martial artist is fighting against a warrior with Pierced lung and Basher? The archer will get severe penalties for hitting, and the warrior won’t be able to run for more than one round. Now, after the players PM their actions, the GM decides subjectively what succeeds – no need for converting IC actions into numbers then into IC actions again. In the example above, the archer could get to-hit bonuses if he chose to use his unarmed skills instead of his bow. The warrior, on the other hand, would be more successful if he chose to bash the archer, instead of running around, charging or climbing the stairs.


Detail
It would be best if all players kept their updated stats in lower case in their signatures. Since we can’t actually see each other’s characters, it would be great if some info were handy when we read each other's posts. This would really improve our interaction (“Oh my, I didn’t know I was talking to a Wealthy Noble!” or “By the goddess, I totally ignored that you didn’t have a hand, I’m so sorry sir grandmaster!”).

Let my give the example of an NPC:

Warlord, scarred II, sharpshooter, horse archer, noble, maimed (one foot),

He is a lesser D’Shar noble. He receives relation bonuses in military interactions (scarred II), penalties in courtly interactions (scarred II), he is able to successfully RP high difficulty precision shooting during battles (sharpshooter), is a noble and gets everything that the position entails. He can also shoot on horseback without penalties (horse archer), and must walk with a cane (maimed).



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As complementary note, I must say that this is the most realistic character management system I’ve seen in a very long time. I never really agreed with the idea of leveling up, and I really liked the idea of a RPG (I forgot its name; Call of Ctullhu, perhaps?) in which the longer you were in the adventuring life, the worse it would be for your physical and mental health. I always wanted to find something that accounted for the physical traumas and psychological distress that one get after facing demons, armies of rapist Vanskerries, superhuman Noldor, etc.

See Achilles and Ulysses, for example: both high level warriors, but totally messed up - one a crazed psychopath and the other a pathological liar. Or Anakin Skywalker, an epic level knight who in his quest lost a hand, two legs, and his sanity. Or Frodo, one finger short and with a wound that ached every year. Or Kara Thrace. Or Katniss Everdeen. Or Tyrion. What I’m trying to say is that what we consider epic level characters have reached that at a cost, and that they are awesome that way.

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As I said in the beginning of the long text, I would like your feedback on this. I’m developing this for another RPG, but if you want it we could implement it here as well.
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 5:54 am

Wow this is a really cool system! I like how you got Fallen Enchantress in there Very Happy I will take some more time to read it in much great depth later on but this is really quite exciting. Nicely done!
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 5:57 am

This looks very interesting and promising for character roleplay. I would definitely try and implement this, though we will have to see to what extent this is possible without creating another heap of work undone.
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 6:29 am

honestly I really love it and I think it would improve the RP greatly.

But I don't think it would improve the Arena fights because the problem in the Arena was that the updates were to infrequent and so everyone just got bored.


@Iskar: we would just need two people who decide the matter, everyone gives the traits that he wants his character to have and explains why, and then these two decide if this is reasonable IMHO


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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 6:36 am

For me the problem was in converting and decoding RP actions into numbers. The whole process slowed down the fight and made people lose interest, I think.

I'll post some examples soon, then you can see what I mean.

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@Iskar: we would just need two people who decide the matter, everyone gives the traits that he wants his character to have and explains why, and then these two decide if this is reasonable IMHO

Not two people. As we have seen in Pendor's Finest thread, the players usually correct each other and point out when something is odd, excessive or lacking. So we just need to start and wait for the comments.


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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 6:37 am

It's most definitely a complex system. I'd like to see what comes out of this...

But this line troubles me slightly.
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they receive traits, penalties and skills according to what happens to them. These traits change their character and influence their way of roleplaying.

If we, the players, already have established our characters and don't want them changed unless we ourselves decide to change them... what then?
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 6:46 am

I realized that the quest-gained traits were left out. I'll complete that later.

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they receive traits, penalties and skills according to what happens to them. These traits change their character and influence their way of roleplaying.
If we, the players, already have established our characters and don't want them changed unless we ourselves decide to change them... what then?

Well, that's for my setting elsewhere, and life is harsher in that place. It means that, when you or your party lose a battle, a roll would be made. Depending on how you were knocked down (projectile, blunt, cutting, piercing), a list of possible wounds would be given, and we would roll for them, taking your other traits into consideration (hardy, unflappable, strong, etc.).

Basically, If you were unlucky enough to lose a battle, and unlucky enough to lose an eye in the random roll, your character would have to deal with that. That's life, and I think that makes it great.



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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 7:15 am

I like it, though I think it should be implemented in a slower rate than to start using it right away.

First the most basic traits,
then when we have done actual battles and IC/PvP meetings relevant traits can be discussed. (or during)

It's a lot of text, so besides the fact that what you've come up with is awesome, it's a too large to use right now.
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 7:26 am

We could simply give it a try and see what happens. As Saeros correctly pointed out the self-regulative forces of the collective worked quite well for the Arena stats, so why not here?
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 7:39 am

At first glance (and I will look at this more indepth later) This seems like a good idea and jumping off point. New traits/detriments would have to be ok'ed by people like Mordred and Iskar right?

What would the limits be? And would it stop at a point so a character cant get maimed 4 times and is a limbless torso? (kind of extreme but you get the point)
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 7:43 am

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And would it stop at a point so a character cant get maimed 4 times and is a limbless torso?
If anything, common sense. When you're already one leg short riding into battle like a madman is not the most prudent thing to do...
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 8:13 am

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What would the limits be? And would it stop at a point so a character cant get maimed 4 times and is a limbless torso? (kind of extreme but you get the point)

Hahaha, that was nice to picture Very Happy

No limits. Some wounds are curable by specialized healers. Although theoretically possible, you would have to be very unlucky to achieve that. Mutilations are relatively rare wounds and happens only in specific circumstances (e.g. 5% chance after being knocked down by a cutting weapon), so the character you mentioned would probably have, in addition to that: Scarred X, amnesia, dementia, fear of dying, lost two ears, lost an eye and burned flesh. And if he wasn't plain unlucky, that would mean that his positive traits would be proportional to that wretched body: he could be a masterful commander, a brilliant instructor, a supreme administrator, an exceptional engineer, and a silver-tongued merchant, wealthier than entire kingdoms - all of that at once.

That is really one of the points of the thing. Some traits are overpowering. If they were easy to get, you character would soon be able to kill Mordred barehanded. So there must be a risk. You want to get the intimidating trait? Try calling an enemy champion for a duel in front for your army. Yes, you may risk losing an ear, but you may also get that trait. You want a lot of renown quickly? Win a skirsmish against impossible odds. Risky, but rewarding.

Other things are safer, but they take longer. Things like Diplomat, Survivalist or Commander are safe to get - no risk involved -, but they require consistent roleplay for some months.
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 8:16 am

It feels like Rome:Total War.
Soo when Haegon stays in Sarleon for months, will he get a 'drunkard' trait? tongue
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 8:18 am

And "Dubious", "Sexually Eccentric", "Lazy" and "Deep Pockets". Razz
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 8:27 am

Never played it, but seems good already!

So thanks for the feedback so far. I understand that the main concerns refer to the possibility of traits influencing one's RP*, the possibility of ending up with an useless character, and the need to ensure fairness of combats in some way.



On the note of traits influencing the roleplay: note that the majority of the positive traits must be actively sought after. Sure, perhaps your grandmaster will start giving you 1000 denars weekly (Wealthy trait), but this is a rare occurence. It's not that you will gain a Swordmaster or Hunter trait out of nothing.



*. Ha, I just remember that D&D had cursed items that turned you into the opposite sex. Quite a big RP influencer, I would think Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 8:30 am

How about we start a thread similar to the kingdom's finest where everyone lists the traits and background they think would fit their character based on his/her bio and actions in the RP so far?
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 8:33 am

I'll give some examples to create a standard, like I did in the arena. Then we could see if it works out.
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 9:11 am

Love this idea; I've played fallen enchantress and I like how you alluded to it and worked it in there somehow. My only issues with it have already been addressed by the others already. I personally love the idea, and I hope we can implement it soon for a test run.
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 5:49 pm

I suppose it makes sense. Wonder what my character sizable facial scar a Knight of the Lion gave would count scarring wise Razz.

I do wonder how it will play out between more utility based character and sheer combat characters though.
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Sir Haegon
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 6:24 pm

Kamos wrote:
Wonder what my character sizable facial scar a Knight of the Lion gave

This is something that would be missed in IC meetings. Having that in a signature as trait would certainly help Smile
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 6:34 pm

There should be a background for non-military nobles (which would fit my character best, as he should have a noble's manners but a scholar's learning without combat training). After all, there are now titles for civilian nobles (margraves and such), though I've forgotten where the title list is.
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Zekic Thunion of Laria
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 7:09 pm

What about creating more established character giving him few negative traits, but also few more positive(of course it would have it limits)?

Let's say i got scout who is exceptionally proficient with bow, extremely fast rider, can track forage. All the usual bonuses, and one trait let's finesse. In background it is written(however no such event happened in actual roleplay) that this scout has lost eye in the forests while fighting bear, on the other hand this gave him another trait:keen senses for example.

It could be even that one may chose up to 3 important event's of the past, and gm's, or whoever is responsible for it, decide what trait's character got from them(Taking in consideration player's wishes), just like if they have been actual rp event's
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyThu Jan 17, 2013 1:11 am

Lose an eye against a bear? I know that's just an example, but it's hardly likely to lose an eye against a bear. More like you'd lose your life, if a bear got close to you, you being an archer.

In any case, IMO these 'changes' should be ran through the people who own the characters before executed.
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyThu Jan 17, 2013 1:15 am

Well, most of these do not change the personality of the character, only his abilities. If you do an extremely heroic/stupid charge in a battle there is a chance that your character will get severely injured. In exchange you also get the bonus for the charge which might shatter the enemy's formation and/or morale. That would only be consequent.
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PostSubject: Re: An idea for character managing   An idea for character managing EmptyThu Jan 17, 2013 1:23 am

Like when Thaddius launched himself with a catapult, he'd have earned "Maimed Leg" trait which reduces movement and aches in the winter.
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