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Mordred
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PostSubject: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:43 am

Thread for discussion on the new War for Pendor meta-game ruleset.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:09 am

WOW, a lot to read. But I will get through =)
First question: when will it start?

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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:38 am

Already has, would appreciate opening actions by Sunday.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:18 am

Will the Non-Player factions be acting as well or is that just to much work? Razz
Obviously I suspect reactions from them but the outward expansion potential is good to know.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:21 am

They will be more or less immobile, but they can easily be turned into a fully functioning Order if I get bored... or if they get attacked.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:35 am

Note :

Just added "Vigilantes" as an Influence Action. This costs 2000 RPs (Soldiers only, just like Patrols) and boosts influence there by 4 a week. Once complete you can claim the Hex at "Outsider" level by building a Chapterhouse I once you have 10 Influence there.

The benefit of this, is you get the claim in 3 weeks rather than 4 with ordinary patrols.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:25 pm

Note :

Added +1 Influence /Week to Sheriff and Town Watch
Added +3 Influence /Week to City Watch

Prices and upkeep are unchanged.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:44 pm

Note :

Added garrison capacity for Towns.

Capacity
Small Town : 100
Medium Town : 200
Large Town : 400
Small City : 700
Medium City : 1000
Large City : 1500
Metropolis : 2300
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:16 pm

At first glance, this seems like an amazingly thorough and well-planned feature to add to the role-play, and no doubt enjoyable. I have thought about the possibilities of how far the orders can go with this, and feel the need to suggest there be a mutual agreement between orders to have peace for the time being. I've not discussed this with my own order, and would like to hear their opinion as well, we might even all have the same idea in mind. My suggestion is that we take all of the empty spaces, so to speak, before making any offensive attempts at other orders' lands. This would make it so that no territory is left out before the real battles start, and more interesting, as every order will likely be built up by the time all spaces are owned, creating an intense atmosphere. This will give everyone time to get acquainted with the go about of the feature, and having everyone gain a bit of experience with it before we try attempting anything offensive, will likely help everyone out, and remove initial confusion. This is only a suggestion, and I don't expect everyone to fully agree with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:55 pm

Completely agree. There's no sense in fighting over spaces when there are still spaces left.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:29 pm

Ah what fun is that?
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:13 pm

Lokloklok wrote:
Completely agree. There's no sense in fighting over spaces when there are still spaces left.

There is. The fun of playing against other orders.*looks over to eventide's territory*
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:20 pm

Oh, sweet, fuck, does this look complecated, and i wanted to pass school this term...
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:12 am

Shocked This will take me a while to fully understand. When we really get going, this could be pretty fun, but right now it's a complicated mess of tables, maps and stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:01 am

It may seem like a lot at first, but dont worry it is actually quite simple in concept. What makes it tougher though, is the wide range of choices made available, and this is purposefully done, I hate linear games.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:06 pm

If a Player Character is ordered to do an action, will any benefits be considered?
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:04 pm

I hope they send me to "promote" the dawn in Singal Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:26 pm

You may be sent back a rather...'different' condition than you are now.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:36 pm

A broken and mangled man. A shadow that clings to this world surviving off the fear and anguish of mortals. You will be eternity, not alive but yet not quite dead either.
The dark goddess will whisper in your ear and you will know extacy, know meaning, you will now what it means to just be right.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:38 pm

Yes, hopefully in the form of mini events and quests. That said I would like to see the Players being sent on missions where there is a real challenge involved, rather than just a routine influence raising action.

Imagine the Players as the heroes and generals of your army, with their direction you are more likely to get a better outcome... but then again they may completely screw up, that is half the fun!
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:28 pm

Will Manifest Destiny progress no matter whether the mini-events are finished or not? I mean the mini-events were planned to last a certain amount of time, but already take much longer than one week. I am not sure it would benefit the Rp if months pass in Manifest Destiny while we are still trying to finish the events that only lasts a week theoretically.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:14 am

Yes, unless there is an absolutely massive event that encompasses all the Orders and needs to be determined before the Manifest Destiny can progress.

I am hoping that the events lend more detail to what may be routine actions in the meta-game, along with bigger risks and rewards to make up for the time. Exceptional actions in the meta-game may also generate mini events in the future, depending on their goals and scope (the Gauntlets fighting alongside the Noldor for instance, we couldn't do justice to the situation in pure strategic mechanics, it would need to be played out properly)

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I also intend there to be a seasonal (and end of Major-Events) fund coming from the Crown to all the Orders, in order to give you a little more spending money. The distribution of this fund will be determined by hosts / gamemasters depending on how well the Order did (and how pissed off / happy they made the Crown in doing what they did).
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:34 am

300th post Very Happy

Then like that the Griffons will get the most seasonal fund from the crown among all the orders. As they are the kings bodyguard and never been known to piss the king off. Look at Kamos pirat
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:16 am

knight of the dawn, if you set one foot even near singal, we will send you back to your order minus your reproductive organs, and your hands. we may be at peace, but come here and you will break it.
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PostSubject: Re: Manifest Destiny (Discussion)   Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:22 am

I want to come to Singal to try their taverns Laughing maybe some ale? Very Happy

Eventides vs Dawn in Ale Drinking Competition. Try to down the Fierdsvain in me Very Happy

Btw, I'm not even allowed at Singal? Is that a rule for that? =,=
I could just very well come for non-Dawn actions
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