Throne Room OOC - Archived Parts

Singal as the corrupted prototype of a Free Pendorian City, is officially ruled by a council that is comprised of 7 members:
Chairman, Chamberlain (head administrator), Guard Captain, Chancellor (taxes and city coffers), Lord Patrician (commerce and mercantile), Chief Justice (Head Judge), Counsellor (In Singal a representative of the separate military, in other cities most likely a representative of the dominant order).

I would advise using this template for the other free city.

There are ways we can by-pass the hereditary lord issues (using a Parliamentary Monarchical model for example, where the head of the council serves for life, with or without a hereditary element, while the councillors themselves are elected).

More difficult though is how does this fit within the ducal / provincial model, particularly where its advantages are concerned as raising taxes and troops is already a power enjoyed by the Dukes. One thing I can see is allowing them to oversee their own international affairs (and thus have the power to declare war... though I am not overly keen on this), or subsidies from the crown to spare merchants having to pay tariffs when entering the city to do trade.

I think you are right that we need a legal framework in place before we do too much on the Free Cities, so we should either scrap them for the time being or determine the laws OOC (its something I was going to do in a future event.)

I'd say that dukes usually impose taxes, tolls and tariffs, so merchants would loose some of their profit. A free city with autonomy in this regard would enhance trade greatly, as the merchants in the council would certainly reduce these dues. Furthermore we can use the concept of Stapelrecht (staple right, i.e. merchants passing through the city are forced to present their goods in the fairs and markets of the city for a certain period of time), which greatly increases the trade volume.

As for military, a free city might be forced to maintain a standing force of citizen militia to guard the city (like late medieval halberd/pike and crossbow militia), and in case of a royal levy the city can choose to rather pay for equipping already levied troops instead of sending a levy of her own (like the smaller members of the delian league).

Just been reading over the outcome of the first three events, and realised I had placed Duke Alexis as the governor of the province of Ravenstern. I've corrected this in the IC Materials thread, so please take this into consideration for your own plans.

Regarding the Free City... should we rename it to Staple City (as Calais was for the English in France), whereby all goods of a certain type must pass through that port and are subject to having to display their goods as per Iskar.

Therefore the question is which city should be staple, and for which good(s)? I think this is more along the lines of what I was looking to do with the Free City concept anyway.

So the duke is kept in his place of power but the merchants gain some imperial privileges such as staple rights and no royal taxes? (local taxes for the duchy still have to be paid, though I'm not completely sure about Pendor's tax system. Does the king have a tax monopoly?)

Yeah, looks like we're in for an era of backroom diplomacy and shady deals

Hinting at something Iskar?

The throne room symbol is orange, but I cannot see new posts, so obviously mordred has introduced at least one more secret backroom.

Iskar wrote:

So the duke is kept in his place of power but the merchants gain some imperial privileges such as staple rights and no royal taxes? (local taxes for the duchy still have to be paid, though I'm not completely sure about Pendor's tax system. Does the king have a tax monopoly?)

Yes to the Duke being kept in place.The way he collects his money is that he charges each Duchy taxes, which are in turn raised from the counties and peasants.

Right, I will introduce this OOC-new information smoothly into the IC-meeting (after I will have had supper), so we can work with it immediately.

We are currently working on a rough overview of the personality of each of the High Lords that will be posted up tomorrow. This should help you make decisions on titles.

I have also prepared a list of goals / ambitions for each of the lords, and these will be taken into consideration for the consequences when the proposal is submitted. This will however be kept secret, even the GM's don't know them.

Hmm. If there is anything about Kyros that might affect the SL-event, could you inform me?

2 years? Has time went that fast? I thought this was only a few months or so after?

8 seasons in the Meta Game have passed, so roughly 2 years in-game time.

Aw crap...

I was actually tempted to make it 2 seasons to equal a Pendor year, which would mean more like 4 years have passed, heh. So between 2 and 4 years

I suggested the Prince was about 4 when the roleplay started, and he was between 8-10 in the Arena scene, so that time scale holds up.

Will we see a Prince Valdemar in PoP 4.0 ?

You are Prince Valdemar in 4. I was careful to keep the heir gender neutral at first, but fleshing Mordred out a little more has made that impossible.

(So basically imagine the kid as a Prince / Princess depending on which you play)

I like this.

Is there a possibility of a "canon" playthrough of PoP 4(and continuation of this RP, perhaps?) after these events have ended? I think we all would love it.

Legionnaire.. that's how it is typed after all thank you Celduir ^^

It only took me 21 years to figure that out my friend!

Then i faster then you by 3 years! With you'r help tough ^^

Marcus the Shadow Fighter wrote:

I like this.

Is there a possibility of a "canon" playthrough of PoP 4(and continuation of this RP, perhaps?) after these events have ended? I think we all would love it.

Perhaps, lets wait for PoP4 to be released before we make any decisions, eh? There should be enough here to keep us engaged here for the time being. I'm using Mordred's history as the canon playthrough of PoP3, and if we reach the aftermath of PoP4, I am sure we can create a canon for that too, though I have no idea what that would entail as yet, nor what the aftermath would lead to.

Remember that the continent of Pendor has already been used in 3 distinct versions (Pendor 1, 2, and 3), and PoP4 is the first to take place on a whole new map, and considering the issues we've had creating it its highly likely that Pendor 5 and 6 will be in Amala too!

Will Pendor 5 and 6 still be in Mount and Blade? I think they could work (most likely better) in a game like Chivalry: Medieval Warfare (Coming soon) or War of the Roses if it's single player is adaptable.